childishgamblignant asked
I think Karkat is an INFP, but he comes off as an ESTJ because he's in the grip of his inferior Te. It's clearly the function he uses the most, but it also seems really underdeveloped. On the other hand, his Fi seems unusually strong. INFPs do have a tendency to slip into an ESTJ "business suit" when it comes to professional affairs, which is probably why he comes off that way, but it takes a lot of energy on their part to keep it up.

Very possibly; the whole thing with ESTJs and INFPs having the same functions but in different order really throws you off to which he uses as his “real functions”.  His Te comes off as inferior, though he appears as a successful leader for his team (but still it’s never really clear how much he actually contributed).  His Fi function is indeed pretty solid, which I’m guessing is the original basis as an INFP.

So he shows his inferior function most often, and his dominant function least often.  Karkat is a pretty messed up kid.

Thank you for the insightful input, Geromy Mindfang.

dualscarvevo asked
hey uh, how do you think a moiraillegiance between an estj and an intp would work out?? im wondering because im an intp and i have like the human version of pale feelings for this estj. just hypothetically cause you know im not a troll

Let us establish things for everybody reading with a quote from the great Hussie, posted on an mspaforum in 2010The purpose is to pacify a partner who is dangerous. It’s not all about being platonic soul bros forever.

The whole best-bros thing ties in with moiraillegiance, it’s very guardian-based, and primarily serves an evolutionary purpose to keep the troll race from killing itself with giving trolls feelings to individually keep watch over another, very similar to Auspisticism, but on matters beyond black romance.

Anyways, humanly speaking it’d basically be like if a more laid back person wants to have some type of relationship with a more uptight person to help them out, or at least that’s what I would define as human moiraillegiance.  Theoretical pop-culture examples could be Higgens to Ms. Doolittle in My Fair Lady, Patrick to Spongebob, Donkey to Shrek,  Biden to Obama, or even with Drake and Josh, but treating each other as the moirail instead of as separate roles.

Oh yeah, the question.  According to this source on myers-briggs relationships, the result seems to resemble a form of moiraillegiance, with the INTP as the “Supervisor” and the ESTJ as the “Supervisee” (similar to the moirail role).  It works as a decent parallell, but the INTP would be more condescending to the ESTJ as a moirail, and would work in the situation that both types had a mutual understanding.

So yes, a moiraillegiance-ish relationship could work out, but only successfully if they’re aware of the type of weird relationship.

hussie-homage asked
Ahah, that made me laugh. Here, I'll give you a couple more cents! I looked back at the type tags, and I saw Karkat was tagged as an INFP. I personally don't see that in him; he seems like a prototypical ESTJ to me! Considering "He's a leader-type, for sure, even if he doesn't always like it. I think he has a very SJ-ish attitude, as well. He takes his duties as a leader very seriously as well as his duty as a moirail to Gamzee." (I got that off of a discussion I'm a part of on personality cafe)

I see, my response to Karkat as an ESTJ has been posted right over there
 

panem-et-internetis asked
Isn't Karkat an ESTJ? I don't think an INFP would like to be a leader as much as he does

You have a good point, Karkat has a very interesting characterization, meaning a jumble of traits that don’t seem to quite add up.  His ambitious desire for leadership is a trait very commonly found in ESTJs, but contrarily when ESTJs are stressed (which is seemingly always for Karkat) they have a harder time putting their feelings into words, not describing how Karkat usually is at all, which could mean:

  • Karkat is so stressed and uptight all the time that it’s his own normal state so it doesn’t count (in extreme stressful situations his articulate choice of words seems to be lost, but then it’d probably most type’s reactions)
  • He might not be an ESTJ
  • His true feelings are that he has genuine care for his friends, and that’s what he really can’t put well into words.

Either way, any one or even multiple ones of those could be true; I’m just theorizing.  Other than that, his ambitious straight-forward drive towards leadership and efficiency mainly point to ESTJ.

Another note, ESTJs really value competence, which Karkat illustrates colorfully with his arguments with past/future selves, a main topic usually criticizing his own competence for dealing with situations.

His own arguments with himself could even suggest an unnaturally extreme Thinking function, neglecting to even consider the feelings of his timey-wimey counterpart, with objectivism going as far as treating his future/past-self as a different person.

Anyways, awesome question/suggestion/thought thingy.  Pretty cool.
 

hussie-homage asked
Hello~! I'm an INFJ who's into both homestuck and MBTI. I'm just wodering: have you considered Aranea as an INFJ? I'm just saying so because our personalities are very similar to eachother's (:. As for Jane I definitely think that she's an ISFJ. Calliope is probably an INFP I'd say, since she has the most passive title "INFPs do not like conflict, and go to great lengths to avoid it. If they must face it, they will always approach it from the perspective of their feelings.". Just my two cents ^^

Hi!  I actually haven’t considered it until finejeez brought it up (he mentioned quite a bit about her being an INFJ a couple posts down) so you could say that she’s an INFJ in my personal headcanon.  That’s definitely a good point for Calliope’s type, being all idealistically pacifist and stuff.  Also, by the air of her, she also seems like one who’d have an unshown deep emotional side that you see a lot in INFPs.

Your two cents are a good two cents.  I shall have these pennies bronzed and put on a pedestal. 

finejeeze asked
INFJs tend to think they're always right because of a strong Ni, this is true, but with Jane, it's more likely the case that she has deep-seeded beliefs that she's been taught, which is far more typical of an ISFJ. Her strong acceptance as an "Heiress" as a centerpiece of her entire self-image prior to entering the game reflects this. Jane is a fairly prototypical ISFJ.

Aah, good point.

mousewing asked
Jane is also skeptical, and hard to sway from what she thinks, needing physical proof. This is, from what I know, a trait of an unhealthy INFJ. They start stepping into an over-cautious outlook. She let her anger with Jake build up until her patience cracked. The Life aspect has been seen as an embodiment of optimism, and the JuJu can be seen as a supercharger, which boosted up her optimism, and "solved their personal problems". I'm just learning about MBTIs, so I hope my info is okay!!

The fact that Jane let her anger build up could indicate that she’s an Fi instead of the Fe that INFJs possess.  BUT personally as an INTP and a fellow Fe, I still have acted in the same way where I let feelings build up inside instead of reflecting others despite it.
Oh!  The first thing.  Sorry, I haven’t really seen anything about INFJs about skepticism and  cautiousness xP

mousewing asked
I figured due to the fact Jane's a gutsy gumshoe then she'd fit the bill for Ni? I could see Si for her, too, but not as much as I see Ni (or what I think Ni is). I always felt it had to do with a bit of detective work as well as thoughts that just come to them, and them putting it all together with a cherry on top. The recent juju-code-thing seems to be a good example of this, in my mind. Tell me if I'm wrong about Ni, by all means.

I think that Jane uses Si more primarily, because Si is mainly about gathering details and making connections with them, which probably was used instead of Ni for figuring out a more detailed-oriented deduction, whereas Ni is more about the conclusions made about the information.  Her whole sleuth-theme stuff shows her more looking for details with less of a focus on finding out ideas for the future. 

finejeeze asked
Controversially, at her worst (IE as a robot), we see her in her shadow. She goes out of her way to strike down Vriska and does so with extreme malice. INFJs are known to hold grudges. She's also marked with being exceptionally cutting and sarcastic, as well as having an extreme, often uncontrollable temper. These as well are all common weaknesses of an INFJ.